 attrition.org (@attritionorg)7/17/11 19:01 @schuetzdj I believe the ends justify the means, but situationally. Certainly not an absolute. |
 David Schuetz (@schuetzdj)7/17/11 18:56 @attritionorg Anyway, we disagree and that's okay. But I was struck by the "ends justify the means" bit. Gives me something to contemplate. |
| attrition.org (@attritionorg) 7/17/11 18:46 @schuetzdj read that line again. ".. & enjoy a modicum of legal protection." and later "i told you, none of this is for print." |
| David Schuetz (@schuetzdj) 7/17/11 18:26 @attritionorg I guess I don't really feel like he lied. He said "journalist & minister" once, but neither pushed the matter after that. |
| attrition.org (@attritionorg) 7/17/11 18:11 @schuetzdj You call Lamo untrustworthy and convicted hacker, yet you defend his actions in lying to Manning. Odd |
| David Schuetz (@schuetzdj) 7/17/11 18:10 @attritionorg Manning was a dumb kid who knew what he'd done was wrong & trusted in someone demonstrably untrustworthy. Dunno. We differ. :) |
| attrition.org (@attritionorg) 7/17/11 18:04 @schuetzdj You sound like a "ends justify the means 100% of the time" kind of guy. |
| David Schuetz (@schuetzdj) 7/17/11 18:02 @attritionorg That may be. I let myself get drawn out too much -- my point is it's irrelevant to me. |
| attrition.org (@attritionorg) 7/17/11 17:59 @schuetzdj That is the point. He is sleazy and did it for his own desire to be in the spotlight, something he has craved for years. |
| David Schuetz (@schuetzdj) 7/17/11 17:57 @attritionorg Could be also that he didn't know what he was in for at that stage. Or maybe he's sleazy & did it for himself. No diff to me. |
| attrition.org (@attritionorg) 7/17/11 17:54 @schuetzdj Standard procedure for .. LE or a PI. It isn't standard for a journalist to do so with intent to publish despite promises. |
| David Schuetz (@schuetzdj) 7/17/11 17:51 @attritionorg What Lamo did may seem sneaky, or just plain wrong, but "gaining trust to get suspect to tell all" is standard procedure. |
| attrition.org (@attritionorg) 7/17/11 17:47 @schuetzdj Except where he lied about being a journalist and minister, and used it to get Manning to share personal information. |
| David Schuetz (@schuetzdj) 7/17/11 15:48 @attritionorg Manning (may) have confessed to spying. Lamo turned him in. I don't give a damn about motivation, it was right thing to do. |
| attrition.org (@attritionorg) 7/17/11 15:12 Hacker Who Turned in Bradley Manning Is a Bigger Scumbag Than We Imagined - http://is.gd/6ToirO |
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